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    Here my 2 cents on the Screen Magic.

    Although it is about 50 cents an ounce I think on screens wo heavy deposits it will do a pretty good job. It darkens all screen to a uniform appearance and this helps alot of the old sunbleached ones.

    If we are not removing dirt but just sealing and coloring it, I can live with that, it is just a screen and as long as it holds up to rain the job is done.

    I like to apply the SM with a micro mitt, the heavier the better, and find about 4-6 pumps on the small spray bottle seem to do it for one screen, I wipe both sides well and the frame.

    I think I used under 10 oz. for 15 screen yesterday and I can live with about $5 for the job.

    If they are inside screens and not too discolored I will go with Winsol as it is much less expensive.

    The time dif between wash and rinse is a pretty big factor in my opinion.

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    I picked up a bottle last week and recently used it on some very old screens. I thought it worked great on the frames, but didn't 'eat' the dust as much as I was looking for.

    I even laid it on pretty thick, but after they dried I took a brush to them and tons more dust came out. I believe this product works, but I was not impressed with how it left so much dust in the screen, even with a thick coating. (I was expecting magic for that price)

    I think I'll stick to just using this on the not-so-dirty screens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinheap View Post
    If we are not removing dirt but just sealing and coloring it, I can live with that, it is just a screen and as long as it holds up to rain the job is done.
    Screen Magic is an emulsifier.

    Lotsa threads/posts here, including those by Tim, the manufacturer.
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    This is from the screen magic website:

    Here is how it works. Our special formula of emulsions, UV inhibitors, glossing agents, and dust repellents don't just cover the dust, it destroys it. The dust particles are organically dissolved making the screens look like new and the dust repellents help to keep them looking that way.
    I expected it to be dissolved, as in I now have a clean and protected screen. From my first experience, this was not the case. I'll be giving it another shot on Saturday and hope I can report better results on a 'newer' less dirty screen.
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    Before this post I did a quick google of emulsfier and found that it binds thing together in general. My take on this is that is surrounds and coats the surface as opposed to cutting as a solvent would.

    If is does eat up dust where does it go, it can go nowhere but into the air and I doubt it does that.

    The fact that it is suggested that it be sprayed on the screens and not wiped with a mitt suggests that it is not designed to be used to remove contaminants from the surface.

    This is just my view on the subject, not trying to get in a battle, just talking it over.

    I am still confused on how it is supposed to eat up dust, it may change it into another form that allows it to be emulsified or bound to the fabric in a more desirable color.

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    Im on the same page as you Kevin. I can vouch that the screens looked great after they were sprayed. (for 15 year old screens). There is no doubt that it does something good. I too am confused about the 'eating' of dust.
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    Thanks for starting this thread. I have mixed feelings about the product. At times it seems to work fine, at times it doesn't make the grade and I revert back to our "old" methods.

    It does nothing to cotton wood on the screen and at times does very little to dust. One of the main reasons I tried this product out was due to watching the video on their website....it very much lead you to believe it cleaned screens.

    We are using it and I plan on keeping at it, but I don't believe it will work with every screen we come across.

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    Well still on the same subject: what is the difference between dust and dirt. Does it take a special action on dust to make it dirt or if you have 10 years of dust on screens does it become dirt?

    I dont really know. But I would say dust if not wetted remains dust. So that would be inside screens.

    You take screen that have been outside for a long time and we are not talking dust but heavy caked on dirt and I dont expect the product to work on them.

    I still think it may have some very good applications. I like doing them there and then, just my pref, as opposed to moving them anywhere for any reason.

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    Here's my conclusion -
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    I love the stuff, but on the heavier dirt and screens with cobwebs I still have to wipe the screens after I spray them. But the coloring is what it's all about... nothing else gets them back to the fresh black, wet looking shine.

    If you buy it in the bigger quantities it's still expensive but easier to stomach. My biggest complaint isn't the price, it's how long it takes to get here. It's taken just shy of 2 weeks both times I've ordered... I'm used to WCR getting stuff here in a few days tops, but this stuff ships straight from the manufacturer and it's ssllooww.


    Also I found that the garden sprayer wasted too much solution. The regular spray bottle works much better imho. It wears out your fingers though, heh
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