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    Default Best cleaning method for these second story windows?

    Was wondering what method you think would be best for cleaning these second story windows.

    Here are the details for only the 2nd story windows:
    57 of the 6-packs for a total pane count of 342
    Each pane is about 32" wide x 24" tall (6-pack unit is about 69"w x 75" tall)
    Frames are 1 3/4" deep (1.75")
    Brick ledge sticks out 3" beyond frame

    I can think of three ways to clean these:
    1) Use ladder and get nose-to-glass
    2) Use a pole from the ground with a Zero Degree Swivel squeegee
    to reach in over the brick ledge and in the 1.75" deep frames
    3) WFP........but I don't have one.

    If cleaning these windows from the ground, wouldn't it be difficult to do the detailing for each window.......wiping any leftover water at edge of glass?

    What would you do in that situation?
    I would hate to run a towel on a pole up around every one of these windows after I squeegee them......time killer.
    It would be easier to detail wipe from a ladder but I would rather not use a ladder.

    Any advise would be appreciated. Thanks!!!
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    Could you rent a lift w/o killing your margin or have them get you a lift. Other than that it looks like ladder or WFP work to me. If you are gonna be making enough or doing this job regularly maybe you should look into investing in a WFP. I think I said this to someone yesterday but they have some starter WFP kits perfect for 2-story jobs for sale here that look pretty reasonably priced.
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    Looks like if you used a ladder, it would be at an awkward angle due to the "awnings". It depends on how far the bottom of the ladder is kicked out as to the safe use of ladders
    here, unless you have someone to hold the bottom ofcourse. But if the windows are really dirty then I think using a ladder for the first clean would be better than wfp. Jesse is right though, if it is going to be regular work, you would prob be better off investing in a wfp system. I recently bought a back pack, di tank and pole for occasional use and to see how the system holds up against traditional methods. I am not sold on it totally as I am quite happy using ladders, but for awkward and higher windows (3 storeys and up), it has been great.

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    If it's gonna be a 3-4 times a year gig, then I'd say use a lift. But will the lift go everywhere the windows are? It looks possible with a ladder with standoff's. Just my 2 pennies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bitago View Post
    Was wondering what method you think would be best for cleaning these second story windows.

    Here are the details for only the 2nd story windows:
    57 of the 6-packs for a total pane count of 342
    Each pane is about 32" wide x 24" tall (6-pack unit is about 69"w x 75" tall)
    Frames are 1 3/4" deep (1.75")
    Brick ledge sticks out 3" beyond frame

    I can think of three ways to clean these:
    1) Use ladder and get nose-to-glass
    2) Use a pole from the ground with a Zero Degree Swivel squeegee
    to reach in over the brick ledge and in the 1.75" deep frames
    3) WFP........but I don't have one.

    If cleaning these windows from the ground, wouldn't it be difficult to do the detailing for each window.......wiping any leftover water at edge of glass?

    What would you do in that situation?
    I would hate to run a towel on a pole up around every one of these windows after I squeegee them......time killer.
    It would be easier to detail wipe from a ladder but I would rather not use a ladder.

    Any advise would be appreciated. Thanks!!!
    Personally, I would try to get a 28' ladder up and over those awnings, setting the ladder above the window. If it doesn't quite fit, a long pole(Or a couple, if you have them) with a ledger would be your best bet. If you have a ettore backflip, it would cut down on your time and I think it would still take care of most of your edges at the bottom. Like you said though, with the pole method there is going to be a lot of high detail work, which is annoying. This is where two poles would come in handy. Also, if you choose to pole it when it's not too hot, you could always clean multiple windows and detail each afterwards. That way, you only have to switch poles once every 3-5 windows

    Good luck. Without a WFP, I think the ladder would work the best for you.(unless your awesome with a pole that high!)
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    I'd use a ladder, but if the job was going to be something a few timea a year, would look into a lift.. at least where I am, the expense of hiring a lift makes up for the time difference of moving a ladder around, unfortnatly, I've always had to use a ladder anyway due to trees etc being in the way of access of a lift.
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    No, I would not use a lift, this job is so simple that to go thru the trouble of getting a lift is just too much for such a small job. A wfp if perfect for this, and just clean off the awnings when you are done with each window. Easy.

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    I would nose 2 glass this ride. It's only the 2nd story

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    This can be done with a pole and detailed !! But u have 2 jobs here !! Clean and seal the awnings too !! Stan, pro window kleening and pr
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    It seems to me that renting a lift for a day, or maybe half day if you have 2 in the bucket, would double or more than double what you would be charging. You could get a WFP starter kit for a reasonable price and use this job as a starting point. Setting a ladder above as Joshwash said wouldn't be such a bad deal either. Just bid it with part of the cost of a lift added to your normal price.
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